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 Engine dies whilst driving: The ugly side of the Start/Stop button?



I'm sure this is supposed to be a 'feature' but I question the usefulness of this...

I have test driven both a 1er & 3er (both FANTASTIC drives by the way...) here in Australia and they both exhibit the same response, whilst the car is IN MOTION, to either
1) Pressing and holding the Start/Stop button for >2 seconds, or
2) Pressing the Start/Stop button 3 times in quick succession

The engine switches off, power steering and brakes switch off, the lights switch to 'park' mode if they were on (ie. they essentially switch off). The only thing that doesn't happen is that the steering lock does not engage... although I'm not sure what happens if you have comfort access?? That's a worry!

The above is not so disturbing if it weren't for the following observations:
- The engines can't seem to be started again whilst in motion! (Note: these were Autos which need to be in P! - Manuals would be OK I would think)
- The location of the Start/Stop button worries me... it is in easy reach of the passenger.

Why does it have to be medial to the steering wheel, why can't it be on the lateral side near the door?
Should the Start/Stop button just be disabled whilst the wheels are in motion?
Does BMW read any of these posts?

A few questions for owners:
Has anyone else tried this in the new E90 and if so, have you found another way to get the car going again (automatic trans) if you're are already in motion?
What happens with cars with comfort access when the engine is turned off - does the steering lock automatically engage if the key is in your pocket?

Paul Martin
Australia
   Reply » Engine dies whilst driving: The ugly side of the Start/Stop button?

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I'm sure this is supposed to be a 'feature' but I question the usefulness of this...

I have test driven both a 1er & 3er (both FANTASTIC drives by the way...) here in Australia and they both exhibit the same response, whilst the car is IN MOTION, to either
1) Pressing and holding the Start/Stop button for >2 seconds, or
2) Pressing the Start/Stop button 3 times in quick succession
Why is this potential danger any greater than with a standard key? The button is so close to the driver and the steering wheel that any passenger reaching it is either a child (who shouldn't be there) or someone who wants to do you harm (and that could be done with a standard key ignition).

   Reply » Engine dies whilst driving: The ugly side of the Start/Stop button?

Quote:
- The location of the Start/Stop button worries me... it is in easy reach of the passenger.
No more different than a key in any other automobile I've driven.

   Reply » Engine dies whilst driving: The ugly side of the Start/Stop button?

Quote:
I'm sure this is supposed to be a 'feature' but I question the usefulness of this...

I have test driven both a 1er & 3er (both FANTASTIC drives by the way...) here in Australia and they both exhibit the same response, whilst the car is IN MOTION, to either
1) Pressing and holding the Start/Stop button for >2 seconds, or
2) Pressing the Start/Stop button 3 times in quick succession

The engine switches off, power steering and brakes switch off, the lights switch to 'park' mode if they were on (ie. they essentially switch off). The only thing that doesn't happen is that the steering lock does not engage... although I'm not sure what happens if you have comfort access?? That's a worry!

The above is not so disturbing if it weren't for the following observations:
- The engines can't seem to be started again whilst in motion! (Note: these were Autos which need to be in P! - Manuals would be OK I would think)
- The location of the Start/Stop button worries me... it is in easy reach of the passenger.

Why does it have to be medial to the steering wheel, why can't it be on the lateral side near the door?
Should the Start/Stop button just be disabled whilst the wheels are in motion?
Does BMW read any of these posts?

A few questions for owners:
Has anyone else tried this in the new E90 and if so, have you found another way to get the car going again (automatic trans) if you're are already in motion?
What happens with cars with comfort access when the engine is turned off - does the steering lock automatically engage if the key is in your pocket?

Paul Martin
Australia

First of all, this is just stupid. Why would you ever start the car when the car is in motion? Am I the only one that sees something wrong with your post? Secondly, the car was designed for left hand drive not right hand drive. That's why the start/stop button is not as handy as it should have been.

BTW, i don't know what you drive but it seems as though u need to retune yourself. When something goes wrong, you pull over to the side. You don't try to start the car over and over. Next time you know somebody will rear end you because you just fail to have common sense.

   Reply » Engine dies whilst driving: The ugly side of the Start/Stop button?

Quote:
- The location of the Start/Stop button worries me... it is in easy reach of the passenger.
Precisely for the passenger to reach it and shut off the engine should the driver become incapacited at the wheel.

   Reply » Engine dies whilst driving: The ugly side of the Start/Stop button?

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Has anyone else tried this in the new E90 and if so, have you found another way to get the car going again (automatic trans) if you're are already in motion?
I assume that putting the car in neutral will allow you to start it.


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