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Supposedly an exciting time to be a car enthusiast, but I'm depressed
I love the way my 323i drives, but I'm tired of dealing with an aging car. As of right now, I have a slight differential whine (most pronounced in the lower gears), the re-emergence of window seal rattles at all four corners, leaks coming from most of the vapor barriers as well as the sunroof drain channels (via the roof mounted brake light), and a notchy shifter. Numerous bushings throughout the suspension are bad and need to be replaced, and within the next year or two, the cooling system (radiator, pumps, hoses) will need to be replaced. Unfortunately, I'm either stuck with an aging car, or stuck with a newer machine that simply doesn't please me as much from behind the wheel. People tell me I need to find myself an E36 M3, but that means going from one set of rolling problems to another.
I drove a newer E46 recently (2003 330i 5 spd), here in Chicago, and was extremely disappointed. The brilliant steering feel and tightness in the E36 and early E46 cars is gone, the DBW throttle pedal blows, and going from the brilliant M5 clutch and UUC flywheel to the numb dual-mass stock setup is frustrating. How the hell can people here call the 2001-2005 E46 a driver's car? As numb as the 99-00 cars are, the 01-05 seem damn near Lexus-like! I know for certain I don't want to settle for a newer E46...same interior and exterior with a considerable DOWNGRADE in driving dynamics. I really can't get over how much I dislike the feather-weight DBW throttle pedal.
Some of you will call me crazy, but I felt it the moment I went from one E46 to another. My car felt downright alien after driving the newer car for about 45 minutes, and that shouldn't normally be the case when the interior layout and feel is almost identical. No doubt, there are differences and they are pronounced!
I'm currently considering the E90, as I recently drove the IS350 and G35 and found them boring and uninspiring. The E90 outperforms the E46 in virtually every respect, but still lacks the exciting feel of the 323i. The E90 is light years beyond the G35 and IS350, but that's not saying much. Then there's the Z4 Coupe, another possibility. I haven't driven a Z4 in over a year, but I do remember finding it somewhat satisfying to drive. At least, certainly more so than the latest crop of E46 cars.
A lot of people rave about how exciting it is for car enthusiasts these days, with an apparently renewed emphasis on performance and power reminiscent of the 1960's, but honestly, I'm depressed. All of this power and performance is wasted on cars with intrusive stability control systems, automated-everything, overboosted steering, and electronic throttles.
All of the mechanical driver-to-machine interaction has been killed off. You don't drive the car anymore, the car drives you. Please excuse me if I find the newest generation of cars to be worth nothing more than a refrigerator or washing machine. Call me a luddite (you can't, though, as I normally tend to prefer the advancement of technology), but I still want to drive!
I supposed, some day, I'll need to go out and find a nice, mint 930 and put up with something a bit less uninspiring as a daily driver.
| | Reply » Supposedly an exciting time to be a car enthusiast, but I'm depressed | Sounds like you should pay to have the needed repairs completed on your car and stick with it.
All cars are moving towards more computerization and the driving feel gets muted further.
I understand exactly what you are saying as will anyone else who has had multiple BMW's over the years. If you look at my sig you will see I am on my 5th bimmer.
Which one was the most fun to drive? The 97 E36 M3 although a bit cramped and loud.
The E46's took away alot of the feel as have the E90's. Newcomers to BMW do not know what they are missing.
In BMW's defense, it would be very, very difficult to sell a 40k+ car without on the wizardry. The drive would not be enough for most folks.
| | Reply » Supposedly an exciting time to be a car enthusiast, but I'm depressed | Nulla mensa sine impensa. So, maybe you should buy a Lotus.
| | Reply » Supposedly an exciting time to be a car enthusiast, but I'm depressed | Interesting post; here are my thoughts.
1. You have e36 (or e30) written all over you, but......
2. If you like your car as much as it sounds, spend the money and make it right.
3. I too looked to replace my car at the beginning of last summer and found nothing that interested me.
4. I've never driven a 323 / 328...is it really that much more connected than my 325i? My car feels quite connected, especially now w / the sport pkg susp and bilstein sports that were recently added. Not to mention the steering retrofit a few years back.
| | Reply » Supposedly an exciting time to be a car enthusiast, but I'm depressed | Quote: Then there's the Z4 Coupe, another possibility. I haven't driven a Z4 in over a year, but I do remember finding it somewhat satisfying to drive. At least, certainly more so than the latest crop of E46 cars. | It all depends upon what you're looking for.
I traded my beloved 2000 323i (with its retrofitted koni/eibach suspension) for a Z4 - the difference is palpable; everything is very "right now", the brakes, the steering (electric power steering no less). The car feels lighter and more agile than the E46. The DBW throttle feels just right.
However, with this current obsession with large wheels and tires (my car has the enormously heavy stylin' 107 combo), I have to wonder how much more unsprung weight this car has over my E46. I know it'll have enormous grip, but I'll have to wait for the spring/summer autox season to find out just where its limits are and how easy it is to toss around. At the moment, it feels even more fling-able with its smaller 17 inch alloys and snows.
I wonder what a lot of young drivers would think of the cars a lot of us older guys drove back in the day. My 1980 VW Rabbit weighed only 1800lbs, had a koni suspension (installed by moi), 13 inch wheels and 70 series tires, 90 some odd HP and was a blast to drive - fun as sin and you always had a smooth progression toward the car's limits. There was but one drive belt in the engine compartment for the alternator, that was it, there was no A/C, power steering, windows, door locks etc., I don't think you can buy a car stripped like that today.
Today's cars provide tremendous grip, the "cornering on rails" descriptive we see so often here, but little true "feel", it's a good thing there are so many drivers' aids onboard.
I betcha the new Mazda Miata would get you pretty close to old school driving fun. I haven't driven one, but all the right ingredients are there: light weight, decent power, small size, analog controls......
Ed
| | Reply » Supposedly an exciting time to be a car enthusiast, but I'm depressed | Quote: | All of the mechanical driver-to-machine interaction has been killed off. | well, for every itch, there is a scratch...

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