RMS & Eurobahn Supercharger kits?

Hi guys:

Eurbahn has been advertising discounted supercharger kits. When Looked into it their photos looked exactly like the RMS kits advertised on the RMS website. This is the only reason why I started doing some research into this matter. Eurobahn is selling their kits with RMS Charge Coolers and brackets. I completely support any company that does business ethically and I do not speak on any turners behalf. My concern deals with corporate piracy and greed and the fact that Eurobahn claims these kits are theirs.

I really believed if you are investing you money into a system you should know as much as possible about the company selling it. Dinan,RMS,VFE, AA have great supercharger systems that they have spend a fair amount of R&D developing. To patronize buying copied kits at anyones expense is just WRONG.... And Its EVIL

Attached is a copy of an email between RMS and me and a PM between Eurobahn and me

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Forwarded Message:
Subj: Re: EUROBAHN
Date: 11/18/2005 3:07:09 P.M. Pacific Standard Time
From: danny@racemarque.com
To: firedwg1@aol.com
Sent from the Internet (Details)

We are well aware of what Jeff is doing. Personally I am very disgusted by him. He was in here about 2 months ago buying parts from Osh for his own personal use. Osh helped him out with items, including software. Osh was OK with doing that for Jeff but the rest of us did not trust him. We now realize that he was planning to copy our product. Any tuner that goes to that extreme to develop a product is not an innovator. Osh is an innovator. He develops his products from his own inception. Not something that can be copied.

I have been reading the forums and it’s hard to believe that people on the boards believe all that is said about us. We also heard rumors of RMS being out of business. Not true. In fact the product line is well funded and no longer has the burden of financing it's own r&d operations.

Jeff used to work here as a sales rep. Before he worked here, he was an employee of Party Planners. Before that he was selling household appliances. He does not have a technical background. Back to the brackets, he went to the people that use to make them for us. We stopped using the machine shop when we learned they were selling our proprietary designs to any one with a checkbook. With the addition of our new CNC machine centers we no longer have to worry about disloyal suppliers or would be competitors snooping around for the goods.

Jeff as well as others on the boards have said that they helped Osh design the kits. That can't be farther than the truth. Osh was building world-class cars when Jeff was selling household appliances. He was actually a client here when he purchased a z3 2.8. He hired us to hop up his Z3........:-) Many companies have compared themselves to us which is a bit a compliment, but to say they helped us is lie. We are here to stay. We will overcome the copycats. It's just a matter of time for the public to figure things out.

Thanks for your concern and being honest and asking us instead of believing all that is said on the boards.

I've attached a picture of some of our in house manufactured parts. Hope you like what we do.

Danny D

Race Marque
818-778-6106

----- Original Message -----
From: firedwg1@aol.com
To: sales@racemarque.com
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 10:40 AM
Subject: EUROBAHN

RMS:

I have a few concerns with a company by the name of EuroBahn.

I questioned Jeff@Eurobahn.us on how similar his super charger kit looks to the RMS setup. He says he was an employee and the kits are completely different. The photos of both kits look identical

The photos look like the same kit to me, can you confirm this? The last thing consumers want is to find themselves between two companies fighting over patent rights.

-Josh

Private Message: Legal Action
Yesterday, 03:41 PM
Jeff@eurobahn.us
Supporting Vendor Join Date: May 2002
Location: Los Angeles,CA
Cars: Audi, BMW, Mercedes. Porsche
Posts: 1,056

Legal Action

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It would have been smarter to contact both sides to get a total picture before you made the very large mistake you made today online.

Whether or not you hae something personally to gain you made comments about a situation based on lies you were told by a criminal company. What you were told is absolutely false and we can prove every claim we made. RMS can't prove anything other than they don't pay their bills and have defrauded countless people.

Eurobahn has the rights to all of the Supercharger products we sell. With the exception of the bracket design which RMS took from Dinan and then we made better all other parts of our kits are our own.

If you wanted proof you should have asked and we would have given you a tour of our 5000 square foot manufacturing facility in Chatsworth where we are making kits right now, or the cancelled checks for the development we PAID!

As asked by my lawyers I am asking you to remove your post.

Jeff Zusman
President
Eurobahn Performance

Reply » RMS & Eurobahn Supercharger kits?

Hi Josh,

Nice to see you are still at it. eurobahn and RMS have both discussed this matter and have come to a peaceful co-existance.

The only one who is starting crap is you and for the reason of trying to hype the VF engineering kit. You were shut down on Bimmerforums so you come here to Tim's forum to try and keep it going. As I said before you are pathetic.

But you have gotten more interest in our products than you can imagine so thank you and by all means keep going!! VF engineering has a hell of a spokesman in you.

Eurobahn is a proud 4 year veteran of Bimmerfest and can't wait for this year's event!

Jeff Zusman

President
Eurobahn performance

Reply » RMS & Eurobahn Supercharger kits?

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Eurobahn is a proud 4 year veteran of Bimmerfest and can't wait for this year's event!

Jeff Zusman

President
Eurobahn performance

nice to see you again :-) and I do not speak for VFE but thank you anyway. Lets see if you can talk your buddies here into putting me in to timeout.

Wait what about you lawyers? Im still waiting for a call ... the fact is party boy, Its not liable if its true. Maybe you should start business by taking a class in eithics. or perhaps you can explain your position.

If you are not a FRAUD explain it...

Reply » RMS & Eurobahn Supercharger kits?

Publishing private mail exchange is not ethical too. It calls for drama and drama is the last thing we might need here.

According to the messages there are accusations from both sides and here we have Mr Zusman stating that they have come to a peaceful agreement.

If you have a personal agenda with Mr Zusman, I kindly ask you to keep the communication via PM or E-Mail.

Regards

Alex Baumann
-Super Moderator-

Reply » RMS & Eurobahn Supercharger kits?

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If you are not a FRAUD explain it...

I have already explained this time and time again but you never modify what you are saying in response to what any one says. You just keep repeating your line so what is the point.

So here we go again and hopefully for the last time. Eurobahn has a share of a manufacturing company that used to be the engineering and production house for a couple of the parts that went into the RMS kit. When RMS stopped paying their bills, we were left sitting with hardware. We decided to produce our own kits to get rid of much of that hardware and to act as a platform to sell OUR new after-coolers and to offer the community a great hardware package that they could tune themselves.

At no time did anyone from our company ever indicate in writing or verbally that WE developed anything related to the brackets of our kits. You chose to launch an attack upon us for your own reasons that had no basis in fact. You then and I commend you on calling RMS, got information that was skewed to one side, and not by an owner of the company or officer of their corporation.

The problem is you never once contacted us to ask for our side or proof or anything. Then you posted personal prior employement information which is not legal or ethical for you to have even been given. That is where the term Legal came from in my letter to you. I have no problem with what your original beef was about. You chose to make it personal to me and not a "discussion" of the facts.

I have now as you asked explained our position and the true facts of why our kit looks similar to the RMS,DINAN,Early ESS,ERT and several other previous supercharger kits that have used the Vortech blower. Hopefully this puts an end to your "impression" that Eurobahn made claims to have developed the one or two parts of our kits that look the same. But I don think any truth is what you are looking for. Your agenda is about VF engineering.

Jeff
Eurobahn

Reply » RMS & Eurobahn Supercharger kits?

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Alex, understood I am just looking for the facts behind this whole deal. RMS knows already that I posted the EMAIL and they do not have a problem with it.

Email and PM is evidence that is perfectly ethical because it’s a CYA for what I have expressed real concerns. Jeff has already threatened me with legal action which I have already invited him to have his lawyers to contact me.

No drama is intended. I think we(consumers) deserve the facts from Eurobahn without personal attacks on me.

Jeff @Eurobahn and his buddies have been trolling over every post I have made claiming that I speak for VF-engineering.

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