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 Loose seat mounting bolt ... another "collateral damage"



So the soft top on my Z4 does not open all the way. It stops at the last inch of travel. I brought the car in for service. After 3 days, the dealer said it is a known problem and BMW was/is still working on a fix. When the fix is available, I'd need to bring the car back.

A day after, I noticed some stains on the back rest of the (beige) leather seat. The stains had not been there when I dropped the car off. Well, it looks like somebody got some type of grease/whatever on it while working on the problem with the top. I brought the car back to the dealer. The stains could not be removed. They ordered new replacement leather for the back rest.

This morning I brought the car back to the dealer to have the leather replaced. I picked up the car in the afternoon. The new leather does not look fully stretched over the foam and I am not quite happy about it ... but I'll see if I can remedy that problem by myself or not. Then half way home, I hit the gas hard from a stop and noticed the driver seat moving

Once home, I looked at the mounting bolts. Three of them were on tight. The last one (the rear one on the inside rail) was not. I took out my tools and tried to do it myself. That bolt could not be moved any further I did not force it too hard because I did not want to be responsible for stripping the threads, etc ...

So, I have to bring the car back to the dealer tomorrow to have this taken care of. Another 50 miles round trip

Question #1: Is there any "gotcha" that would prevent this bolt from being tightened all the way? I did remove the bolt and did not find any obvious damage on the bolt itself.

Question #2: Is it too much to ask for/expect competent service? I mean ... fixing problem A without introducing problem B? As you can see, including the 4th trip that I am making tomorrow, I have done 200 miles between my house and the dealer ... and the original problem (i.e. the top does not open all the way) is still not fixed yet!!!
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So the soft top on my Z4 does not open all the way. It stops at the last inch of travel. I brought the car in for service. After 3 days, the dealer said it is a known problem and BMW was/is still working on a fix. When the fix is available, I'd need to bring the car back.

A day after, I noticed some stains on the back rest of the (beige) leather seat. The stains had not been there when I dropped the car off. Well, it looks like somebody got some type of grease/whatever on it while working on the problem with the top. I brought the car back to the dealer. The stains could not be removed. They ordered new replacement leather for the back rest.

This morning I brought the car back to the dealer to have the leather replaced. I picked up the car in the afternoon. The new leather does not look fully stretched over the foam and I am not quite happy about it ... but I'll see if I can remedy that problem by myself or not. Then half way home, I hit the gas hard from a stop and noticed the driver seat moving

Once home, I looked at the mounting bolts. Three of them were on tight. The last one (the rear one on the inside rail) was not. I took out my tools and tried to do it myself. That bolt could not be moved any further I did not force it too hard because I did not want to be responsible for stripping the threads, etc ...

So, I have to bring the car back to the dealer tomorrow to have this taken care of. Another 50 miles round trip

Question #1: Is there any "gotcha" that would prevent this bolt from being tightened all the way? I did remove the bolt and did not find any obvious damage on the bolt itself.

Question #2: Is it too much to ask for/expect competent service? I mean ... fixing problem A without introducing problem B? As you can see, including the 4th trip that I am making tomorrow, I have done 200 miles between my house and the dealer ... and the original problem (i.e. the top does not open all the way) is still not fixed yet!!!
You need to go to the service manager tell him what you expect. Tell him that yoiu will return the CSI card(s). They get graded at their employee review and any bonuses,etc. are influinsed by the resaponse cards. If your service advisor is incompetent go to the srevice manager, if that is not getting it done (and it doesn't sound like it) ask for the owner- not branch mgr. THE OWNER. If he is not in ask for his personal assistant and the zone manager. They are having enough problems selling z4's and an owner disatisfied will do more damage... Next time inspect the vehicle with the advisor before leaving. Make him go for 1 mile test ride. If he says no go up the chain. Squeaks always get greased..
I know you know this but sometimes it's good to hear it agian. just trin to asasist.. good luck..

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Question #1: Is there any "gotcha" that would prevent this bolt from being tightened all the way? I did remove the bolt and did not find any obvious damage on the bolt itself.

Question #2: Is it too much to ask for/expect competent service? I mean ... fixing problem A without introducing problem B? As you can see, including the 4th trip that I am making tomorrow, I have done 200 miles between my house and the dealer ... and the original problem (i.e. the top does not open all the way) is still not fixed yet!!!
Mediocre work is now the standard. It's getting worse as time goes on with anything you do. Like dinged wheels when mounting tires is now acceptable. Only solution in CT is to lower your standards or do the work yourself which lets you control the quality.

Two classics from the roadfly E46 M3 board.

http://bimmer.roadfly.org/bmw/forums...6051443-1.html

http://bimmer.roadfly.org/bmw/forums...6050770-1.html

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Mediocre work is now the standard. It's getting worse as time goes on with anything you do. Like dinged wheels when mounting tires is now acceptable. Only solution in CT is to lower your standards or do the work yourself which lets you control the quality.

Two classics from the roadfly E46 M3 board.

http://bimmer.roadfly.org/bmw/forums...6051443-1.html

http://bimmer.roadfly.org/bmw/forums...6050770-1.html
It's a shame.

I'm definitely in the "never buying a new BMW" and "never taking my car to the dealer for other than warranty work" boats.

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It's a shame.

I'm definitely in the "never buying a new BMW" and "never taking my car to the dealer for other than warranty work" boats.
I am so fed up with all the crap that I have to go through to get taken care of properly at a dealer around here. I am basically to the point that I am happy the my warranty is going to expire in about a year or so. I never thought that this would ever happen. The latest story is related to the power steering failures I keep having in my car. And guess what? BMW wanted the system flushed but did not let the dealer replace anything even if it took more that 30 quarts of ATF to get the system clean. Car, obviously does not feel ok and I did not pick it up. It has been there for 2 months. Now I have to fight yet another battle with BMWNA to make them do what they were supposed to do in the first place anyway. I am at least lucky because the SA is fighting part of the battle for me. Anyway I am very far from being a happy customer and definitely in the category of 'never buy a BMW with warranty because it is worth nothing anyway'.

Florian

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I’m with BMW of North America, LLC. I’m so sorry your service experience was not what you expected. We are here to work with you and your BMW center. If you would like our assistance, please give us a call at (800) 831-1117, and mention Reference #200436400413 so that we can help you more efficiently.


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