Need an expert to check my logic on this:
I'll just use some round numbers...
Fully Loaded 550i Cost of car: $80K Money Factor (3 yr lease): 2.79 from dealer - not sure why this is so much higher than what is listed on the "Ask A Dealer link", which is 2.25 Mileage 10k/yr (I work from home) - gives residual at 61%
I ran a comparison in Excel looking at where I'd I'd be at 3 years:
Scenarios:
I. Lease and invest the 80K, figuring payments of $1300 each month out of it, and an investment return on the balance at 5% (which may be high based on the current trend - long term expectations don't apply).
2. Buy outright, sell at 3 years.
Results:
1. At the end of the lease, my 86K (price + tax), would be worth 49K - putting 9K of MSDs down leaves me at $51K - so the MSD thing looks worth it.
2 At the end of ownership, my car would be worth 45-50K if I sold it - I think getting 50K would be really tough since many of the options that ran up the price might not appeal to everyone.
So it looks like a lease could be better if I am doing the calculations correctly - IF:
a) I don't want the car after 3 years (high residual makes it not so good a deal to buy out). b) investment returns do a lot better than the average for this year so far c) the value of the car at 3 years is actually less than the residual, otherwise the lease is a wash with more risk/unknowns.
Am I missing anything?
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| Reply » 550i Lease Quandary |
Did you consider doing European Delivery (ED)? You will save a bunch of money on the front end, and also for leasing.
Secondly, the BMWCCA rebate will get you $1K. If you lease/buy for 2 years, that is a $500 rebate per year. If you lease for 3 years, that is $333 per year.
Good luck!
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Talk to one of our dealer sponsors, Adrian@Nalley BMW: http://directory.bimmerfest.com/site...onsor&SpCId=71 Adrian is a stand-up guy and regularly posts here on 'Fest. He can do an ED for you as well. You'll LOVE him! 
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Sorry - no ED, no Nalley on this one - just lease versus buy Q's. I ordered this car, it's here, and I am just trying to sort out the best way to pay for it. Seems pretty close either way.
According to the finance guy, he says MSD is now only 5 per and .00001 instead of .00005 - so that does nothing much. Has anyone else done a June lease to know if this is true?
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Finance Guy is BSing you since you are not allowing him to markup the MFs. Walk if you have to.
The program was 5 x 0.00005 reduction and now it is 7x0.00007 reduction since the interests rates have also gone up. A few years ago when the interest rates were even higher I think it was 10x 0.0001, allowing you to take a full 2.4% off the buy rate.
And the dealer can markup 0.0004 plus 0.00015 if no SD.
In CA on a 80K car the Sales Tax would be $6600 which makes the lease a no brainer versus buying.
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If he won't budge on the MSDs, you don't have much recourse near as I understand it. You could point him to the thread in the Ask-A-Dealer section (see sticky near the top) but it *is* as BA has described it: 7 SDs max at 0.00007 per SD discount on the MF. You should be able to get 0.00049 knocked off the MF if you wish if the F&I guy plays ball. Tell your CA the F&I guy might cause you to walk on the deal. I'm sure the CA won't be happy if his F&I guy costs him money. Other than that, don't know what to tell you except to stick to your guns unless you really, really, REALLY want the car. Good Luck to you! 
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