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 E90 M3 vs. E90 330i Turbo



OK, I'm only speculating based on the bits of information I've gathered from the media.

The E90 M3 is coming with a V8 engine, probably producing around 400hp. The 330i Turbo, although not acknowledged for production yet, will probably have a 3.0 Liter I-6, producing 300 hp.

I am guessing that the M3 will cost a leg and an arm, but the turbo 330i will not be a cheap car either. On the other hand, it could definitely fill the gap between the 258hp and 400hp, which is quite a gap.

I don't know if the Valvetronic engine can be successfully turbo charged as it's been supercharged by Alpina (although expensive and complicated, requiring special craftmanship for a small number of engines that's being produced in a 'workshop'). I'm not very familiar with turbo charging, but if reliability is an issue, I'm guessing that it's not just plug-and-play or is it ?

On the performance side, I'd say that they will be quite close to each other, in terms of accelaration and overall performance throughout the rpm range.

OK, other than just a game of hp numbers, what purpose will a 330i Turbo serve ?

What do you think ?

And those who would willing to spend the money on an M3, would they consider the Turbo instead ? I know it's too early to be able to say, but what the heck
   Reply » E90 M3 vs. E90 330i Turbo

i'd say it's like comparing the performance of a E36 M3 and a E46 330. Close on paper, but different animals...

   Reply » E90 M3 vs. E90 330i Turbo

If there's a 330i turbo, it pretty much guarantees that the M3 will be a $75-80K car.

Whether or not I'd consider the 330 turbo would depend a lot on the presence of aftermarket LSD options. (I'm assuming that BMW will NOT offer this OEM.) The open diff in my 323 is already pretty frustrating, I can't imagine driving something more powerful...

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If there's a 330i turbo, it pretty much guarantees that the M3 will be a $75-80K car.

Whether or not I'd consider the 330 turbo would depend a lot on the presence of aftermarket LSD options. (I'm assuming that BMW will NOT offer this OEM.) The open diff in my 323 is already pretty frustrating, I can't imagine driving something more powerful...
I can pretty much guarantee the e90 m3 will not be $75-$80k. The 330i turbo, if produced, would simply be a niche car without LSD. It would be just too much power for it to not have LSD. The extra weight of the turbo and plumbing, for the (presumably) extra ~40 hp, would not be worth it, imho. If it did have the limited slip, then it would be worth while. I would think it would be:

e90 330i Turbo ~$42k base list
e90 M3 ~$52k base list

   Reply » E90 M3 vs. E90 330i Turbo

I don't like the non linear power delivery of turbos, and since we had to replace one in our Passat to the tune of over $2k, I'm wary of their reliability too. I'd take a 330i or an M3, but I'd pass on the 330 turbo.

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I can pretty much guarantee the e90 m3 will not be $75-$80k. The 330i turbo, if produced, would simply be a niche car without LSD. It would be just too much power for it to not have LSD. The extra weight of the turbo and plumbing, for the (presumably) extra ~40 hp, would not be worth it, imho. If it did have the limited slip, then it would be worth while. I would think it would be:

e90 330i Turbo ~$42k base list
e90 M3 ~$52k base list
Given that BMW puts an open diff on the 545, I can't see any reason why they'd do it on the 330 turbo.

Realistically, the M3 is currently a $55-60K car. If you insert a car in between the 330 and the M3, it has to go up pretty substantially. So if not 75-80K, then it becomes at least $65-70K.


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